tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post6467594462835509173..comments2024-02-20T18:04:35.517-05:00Comments on Family Tree Maker User: How or IF to Cite an Index ?Cousin Russhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-19145626074908341552012-08-22T08:16:34.363-04:002012-08-22T08:16:34.363-04:00Brian,
You are most welcome.
Good luck,
RussBrian,<br /><br />You are most welcome.<br /><br />Good luck,<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-39441432224176631452012-08-22T07:52:23.125-04:002012-08-22T07:52:23.125-04:00Yes - Thanks.Yes - Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279876295659235067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-91640274450279937962012-08-20T10:10:34.883-04:002012-08-20T10:10:34.883-04:00Brian,
Here is the Reference Note for SSDI:
Soci...Brian,<br /><br />Here is the Reference Note for SSDI:<br /><br />Social Security Administration, "Social Security Death Index", database, Ancestry.com,(www.ancestry.com), [ name ]; SS Number [ ssn ], Issue Date 1955-1956; State of Issue: Pennsylvania.<br /><br />Here is one for a Florida Death Index:<br /><br />"Florida Death Index, 1877-1998", database, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com), accessed 08 May 2012; citing State of Florida, Florida Death Index, 1877-1998. Florida; Florida Department of Health, Office of Vital Records, 1998. index for [ name ].<br /><br />Does that help?<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-45893447668805680462012-08-20T09:46:01.336-04:002012-08-20T09:46:01.336-04:00Russ, I also agree with you. We get a source citat...Russ, I also agree with you. We get a source citation when we merge a record from Ancestry. We might as well convert it to EE format. I do notice that some birth/death indexes from Ancestry are not the same format. BTW, Russ, can you share one of your county/state death indexes and one Social Security Death Index with the group? I do better with seeing an example. I noticed that FTM2012 has an Online Database - Social Security Index template. Thanks, BrianAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12279876295659235067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-52837820757527773632012-08-13T17:08:42.962-04:002012-08-13T17:08:42.962-04:00Michael,
Thank you for your comments.
Good luck,...Michael,<br /><br />Thank you for your comments.<br /><br />Good luck,<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-46725343932784852192012-08-13T14:50:31.820-04:002012-08-13T14:50:31.820-04:00I agree with you, Russ, and I intend to cite index...I agree with you, Russ, and I intend to cite indexes as well. If for nothing else, to make sure that I don't search that same index again in a couple of months! :)<br /><br />For a descendancy project that I'm working on, I may never move past the index either. Partly because I don't think I can afford to get all of the original documents and, in this case, I'm not as concerned about "proof" as I am about finding folks. On top of that, the local clerk isn't very fond of sharing documents unless you are a direct descendant, so the index may be as close as I can get (until I recruit cousins to make the request for me).<br /><br />Anyway, great thoughts, as always.Michael Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08505922239423639000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-14373892292115494412012-06-28T11:01:25.768-04:002012-06-28T11:01:25.768-04:00Michele,
When I get the original document or get ...Michele,<br /><br />When I get the original document or get closer to it, I document that. I don't change or delete what I have entered. For me, it's a paper trail to show how "I got there".<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-5565379685137579132012-06-28T10:56:40.168-04:002012-06-28T10:56:40.168-04:00I cite indexes as sort of a placeholder until I ca...I cite indexes as sort of a placeholder until I can get the original document. When I get it, I change my source citation. I do the same thing with IGI/nFS. <br /><br />MicheleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-460772894099809822012-06-10T21:11:27.459-04:002012-06-10T21:11:27.459-04:00Ben,
I think the issue about not citing an index,...Ben,<br /><br />I think the issue about not citing an index, is from a Professional Genealogist, especially when doing research for a client.<br /><br />For me, non-pro, the Follow Up is what has become important for me. I really struggled with the concept of not citing an index, but I am more comfortable WITH citing and Index, as long as I add it to my ToDo List. I am, in fact, going back through my file and making those Tasks / ToDo lists, based on an Index Citation.<br /><br />Thank you for your comment,<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-41226149450411207722012-06-10T20:55:44.484-04:002012-06-10T20:55:44.484-04:00I'm with you on citing indexes Russ. The fact ...I'm with you on citing indexes Russ. The fact that the source is an index is apparent from the citation and so that can be taken into consideration when evaluating evidence and conclusions.Ben Sayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03845377175926368567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-2603297530682536962012-06-10T11:02:31.461-04:002012-06-10T11:02:31.461-04:00Dan,
Thank you for your comment.
Good luck,
Rus...Dan,<br /><br />Thank you for your comment.<br /><br />Good luck,<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-57596235238464223672012-06-10T10:21:13.867-04:002012-06-10T10:21:13.867-04:00This is a great topic. I always cite indexes beca...This is a great topic. I always cite indexes because it could be years before I'm able to find time to get to the original records. Some of my most important recent discoveries have been through Family Search indexes of German BMD records. Eventually, I'll get the actual church records sent to my local FHC, but until then I'm happy to cite the index. I also use the New Jersey indexes to vital records as place holders until I visit the archives in Trenton.<br /><br />Dan Babish<br />Columbia, MDDan Babishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17010712152767210321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-8612784808579789412012-06-09T17:44:17.643-04:002012-06-09T17:44:17.643-04:00Yvette,
My reference was from here:
https://www....Yvette,<br /><br />My reference was from here:<br /><br />https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/sample-text-pages<br /><br />Page 2.12: Indexes and Finding Aides.<br /><br />I struggled with that for a long time. But having heard other presentations about indexes and online discussions, led me to believe that we don't need to cite and Index. That has nothing to do with the real deal, it's Do we Cite an Index. I am only suggesting that I AM citing them, but I clearly understand that the work for Evidence is not complete, the Index only points in a direction, and I need to follow it.<br /><br />Thank you for your comments.<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7431320127509797635.post-74424327780565713372012-06-09T17:30:22.661-04:002012-06-09T17:30:22.661-04:00I think you hit the nail on the head here. If you ...I think you hit the nail on the head here. If you found the information you're documenting in an index, that's what the citation should be for. The fact that it would be better to use the original than an index is true but not so relevant. <br />Evidence Explained! does not say that you shouldn't use some types of sources, it just tells you how to document what you have been using in order to properly weigh the reliability of the sources.Yvette Hoitinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807310204372870735noreply@blogger.com